Common questions about passing and failing in engineering

In the last 2 years, i have received hundreds of different questions and queries regarding passing and failing in engineering, mainly in Maharashtra colleges, Mumbai and Pune universities. Since i did not have the time to personally answer each and every one of them, i have now compiled it into one post here. some of them are good questions, and some are silly, but i answered them nonetheless.

1.Are grace marks given at golden subject in engineering

2.Can we get admission in engineering if there is a atkt in diploma

3.How to clear engineering avoiding kts

4.Is grace marking available for F.E in university of Pune

5.Is it a sin to have an ATKT in engineering

6.Maximum KTs in engineering

7.Not eligible for technical education rule Mumbai University

8.How to prevent a drop in 2nd year engineering

9.By giving money, does atkt get cleared

10.What to do if you fail one year in engineering

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1.Are grace marks given at golden subject in engineering?

It is an unsaid rule,but your golden subject or if you have one subject pending in need of passing, you can get upto 1% of total marks in that subject to clear. If paper is of 40 marks, and you have 37, you get graced. If its your fresh attempt, and just one subject left, you can easily get 7-8 marks to pass,

2.Can we get admission in engineering if there is a atkt in diploma?

In the CAP rounds you need to provide documents of  Diploma passing showing you have atleast 45% for general category and 40% for SC/ST category.It has to be clear result without atkt.

3.How to clear engineering avoiding KTs

The first think i tell everyone..is as far as possible,, join classes.Not only for better notes, but you start getting involved with the subject much earlier on,otherwise you would start the subject just 1 month before. This way you can get acquainted with the chapters and concepts atleast 5 months before hand.

Another way is to make lots of diagrams and write lots of content.If there is a subject with little theory in it and more concepts, do the thoery and derivations  100% and get those 15-20 marks, it will help you to reach 40.I passed my CP2 paper without learning one line of programming.

4.Are grace marks available for F.E university of Pune?

Same as Mumbai university, Pune university gives grace marks in fresh attempt, in one subject, provided you have cleared all the other subjects.

5.Is it a sin to have an ATKT in engineering?

I got this question a few days back. Im not sure how religion and engineering got mixed up, but engineering in Mumbai/Pune and Maharashtra Universities are so hard that i think even if god gave a paper without studying, he would get a KT in it.You need to work very hard,8-10 hours a day before your exams and if you cannot do that, you shouldn’t be doing engineering.

6.what maximum KTs can you have in engineering?

At the end of 4 years, it depends on what your talking. For some big government sector companies like Bhel and private companies like Infosys, ask for 65% average for all 4 years, meaning of course you have to all clear through out. Others check only the final year result, and getting a first class there is an advantage. If you plan on going abroad after engineering, some countries have an unsaid rule for a 6 KT maximum for all four years.

7.Is Not eligible for technical education rule Mumbai university?

Also known as NFTE -not fit for technical education rule is implemented when the student is given 8 attempts to clear a subject and even after that he/she cannot pass it.I dont know anyone who has been thrown out of engineering by this rule,because most people somehow manage to pass within 8 attempts. This is given because the syllabus keeps changing every 5 years or so, which is about 10 attempts of a particular course, after which the new course prevails.So after the new course sets in, they still set about 4 more papers for the old course, and those 4 attempts will of course be your last 4 attempts.

8.How to prevent a drop in the 2nd year engineering?

The sem3 is not so hard compared to first year subjects, and many subjects are common for most branches. The key to clearing 2nd year, depends on your first year subjects, and how fast you can clear the backlog. If you scrape through first year with 5 kts, you will be left with 11 subjects to study for with 6 more coming from SEM 4. Its extremely hard psychologically when it goes into double figures, and second year engineering  if cleared ,can ensure you complete your degree in 4 years.

So, Firstly 5 subjects out of 6 from sem 3 should be attempted very well along with 3 from F.E .Out of 8, six can be cleared successfully, that still leaves you with 11 subjects again along with SEM 4. Now you need to clear 6 subjects again to end up with 5 to pass the year.Aim for 4 subjects from SEM 4 and  all the rest from sem1,2,3. Since those are older subjects, you have better understanding of them.Out of 9, you can take out 6 again to leave you with 5 .

The mistake most people do, is that they attempt all 6 subjects of the fresh semester.

9.By giving money,does ATKT get cleared?

Since this is a public discussion,i cannot say yes.There “may have been” instances when rumours are spread about someone clearing KTs, but the only people who can pass or fail you are the paper checkers, in most cases, your subject profs, or the HOD who sometimes corrects papers.

10.What to do if you fail one year in engineering?

Do the same like i did, get some work experience. You will be one step ahead of others who dont have a drop.Out of the 10 months you have in your drop, work for 5 months and prepare for your KTs for the other 5 months.The best paying jobs are BPO jobs, that need only a 10+2 education. Voice process can pay you maximum atleast 15k a month.You get good experience at a job enviroment and good pocket money.I know people who left engineering in thier drop years because they loved the job so much.

 

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695 Responses to Common questions about passing and failing in engineering

  1. jaiky June 14, 2017 at 7:57 am #

    Is there NFTE applicable in Diploma??? If yes what is the total duration to complete diploma befor getting NFTe?


    • jojo22 June 19, 2017 at 6:33 am #

      not heard of nfte in diploma


  2. sumit kumar singh June 9, 2017 at 8:45 am #

    sir …my result is come on 8/06/17 .i pass in geology but get 63 mark in thearoy but in reslut .partical may AB*wirten plz help my sir … i was given the pirtical of goelogy


  3. Mohit June 8, 2017 at 12:47 am #

    In Nagpur University How many subjects cleared in 2nd year to take admission in 3rd year


  4. Radhika June 4, 2017 at 11:09 am #

    Sir, I’m in first year and I had 3Kt in Semester 1 but I’m sure of passing in 2subjects. So will I get grace in KT paper? Because you said fresh attempts get 7-8marks grace easily!


    • jojo22 June 19, 2017 at 6:35 am #

      fresh means first attempt not kt


  5. Shubham May 22, 2017 at 4:27 am #

    I am in BE now.. I have scored 29/30 in my insem exam but I’ll get only 10-12 marks out of 70 in endsem exam which was held recently. And I am passing in all the rest of the papers. Will i clear that one subject knowing that there is separate passing criteria?
    SPPU has a new pattern of separate passing if u would know about this. U hv to score 28/70 to pass but if u fail to do so u get grace marks UpTo 9 marks. Unfortunately I am not able to fulfil that criteria even… Some people say that they’ll get me through if I pass in remaining of the exam and some said that it won’t happen….
    Please anyone has a perfect solution to this please reply coz my degree is at a stake..


  6. Tejas patil May 20, 2017 at 12:52 pm #

    Sir…im frm pune University n in 2nd yr engg….i want to knw dat…I hv 1 kt of fst year…so if i fail will i get ordinance mks….bt in another sub of fst yr i hv got 1 grace mks….


  7. Asia May 17, 2017 at 11:43 am #

    Do we get Steps marks in maths 2 .i am in Mumbai university


    • jojo22 June 3, 2017 at 5:08 pm #

      no


      • Kk June 10, 2017 at 3:36 am #

        Sir i am studying civil diploma
        Which courses are better other than autocad


  8. muskaan malik May 13, 2017 at 5:26 am #

    sir will it be counted as an attempt if I have filled the exam form but have not appeared for it


    • jojo22 June 3, 2017 at 5:10 pm #

      no one is sitting to count your attempts


  9. muskaan malik May 13, 2017 at 5:16 am #

    sir u said that there are only 8 attempts to u give a paper then what if we fill the exam form n not appear for it due to some reason, will it be counted as an attempt too?


    • jojo22 June 3, 2017 at 5:10 pm #

      you can give the paper as long as they are printing it,,until they say it is the last attempt for old course


  10. Shukla Dhaval May 1, 2017 at 4:19 pm #

    If we have failed one time in GTU Exam,we can give a Second time that exam?


  11. Vaibhav328 April 26, 2017 at 7:22 pm #

    Can we ge condolence marks for 2 subjects frm different sem nd year if the percentage are above 50% in diploma??


  12. Hayyan April 22, 2017 at 4:28 pm #

    Minimum subject for year drop in diploma in FY


  13. Hayyan April 22, 2017 at 3:02 pm #

    For year drop how many subject are needed


  14. Sandip April 20, 2017 at 4:29 pm #

    What is carry on rule of msbte.


  15. Gaurav April 12, 2017 at 12:44 pm #

    sir tell me no of aatempt in who many year


  16. mohit March 18, 2017 at 5:30 pm #

    Sir I got 13 marks in chemistry out of 50 .but all sub are clear pass .
    Can I pass by grace in 1 subject


  17. sanjeev March 6, 2017 at 9:24 am #

    i cleared my 8 sem but i have 1 atkt in 6 sem, so while trying for jobs what should i write in resume?


    • jojo22 June 3, 2017 at 5:14 pm #

      just write completed BE from xxx college in 2017


  18. Nishant March 3, 2017 at 2:24 pm #

    Im in sem 8 of MU. Can you please let me know if I get 30 marks in 1 subject and cleared everything else, how much grace will be given to me to pass? 2 marks or 8 marks?


    • jojo22 June 3, 2017 at 5:15 pm #

      its usually a percentage of grace,,max upto 10 marks


  19. Anis February 27, 2017 at 4:15 pm #

    Sir I m FE student and
    I m fail in 1 subject then what I to do


  20. jay February 4, 2017 at 2:03 am #

    In our university RGPV Madhya pradesh as per my best knowledge n as I have also confirmed from help centre n clg exam coordinator…. Rule is to pass all subject in 8year, not for per subject no. Of attempts limitation 8-9 anything, however I don’t know much abt pune/mumbai uni. In any case best thing is to use RTI if its really imp to know the truth. RTI to exam cell of uni should work. Thank you for post


    • jojo22 February 4, 2017 at 4:15 am #

      according to me,,if u need 8 years to pass anything,,that simply isnt meant for u


  21. Prashant February 2, 2017 at 3:58 pm #

    Sir I have 2 kt but clear by 3rd years .
    Now I have 1kt in 3rd sem and 1 kt on 4th.
    I left it. I dint filled exam form last 2.5 years
    What to do kow


    • jojo22 February 4, 2017 at 4:17 am #

      u need to clear the second year kts for entering 7th sem


  22. Madhura January 31, 2017 at 12:05 pm #

    Hello sir..I m third year student Nd i got 1sub backlog in third year 1st sem..I want 7 marks to clear it..can I get grace marks??


  23. Firoj Bashir Shaikh January 29, 2017 at 4:51 am #

    I am diploma in civil engineering failed third semester all subject I am professional assistant engineer 10 years experience me got it awarded certificate diploma in civil engineering.


  24. Shreeya January 28, 2017 at 6:07 pm #

    Can I submit my file after the results has been displayed as it was for only subject that’s web technology


    • jojo22 January 29, 2017 at 12:19 pm #

      but how will u get graded in termwok if u do that,,u might fail in TW


      • Shreeya January 29, 2017 at 7:35 pm #

        But they are like I need to appear all papers again
        The result is null


        • jojo22 February 4, 2017 at 4:20 am #

          if your result is null and void then you have to,,but its an internal thing, you should be able to sort it out


  25. sanket January 27, 2017 at 6:48 pm #

    sir tell me no of aatempt in who many year


  26. sarang January 18, 2017 at 8:04 am #

    which subject relaxation for third year admission in engineering


  27. c4dnj January 17, 2017 at 3:11 pm #

    HI i am currently in 2nd year and have 3 kts from sem 2 as the fe syllabus is changed to 2016-17 and my sem 2 syllabus was of 212 will my kt papers which will be in may 2017 will be of new 2016 syllabus or my old 2012 syllabus


  28. Rohit January 16, 2017 at 3:15 pm #

    If I got 30 in bee and 21 in physics the can I get grace marks ???
    Will I pass ?


    • jojo22 January 22, 2017 at 4:08 am #

      u can get grace in 1 only


  29. Minar sankhe January 11, 2017 at 6:36 pm #

    Sir! I have completed my diploma but there is 1 kt left which is maths (m3) and i gave exam in winter and i got 34 marks! So is there any chance to increase 6 marks?? Please clear my doubt!


    • jojo22 January 22, 2017 at 4:11 am #

      not in a kt paper u cannot increase


  30. Shubham January 1, 2017 at 2:39 pm #

    If I got 29 marks in BEEE and 21 in physics then can I get grace marks…..?
    Will I pass…..?


  31. Sanil jain December 23, 2016 at 1:39 pm #

    Sir I am in 2nd year engineering
    can i get grace marks in “KT” attempt…I mean i gave 3 KT papers of SEM 2 I passed in two subjects but not in the 3rd..
    Will i get grace marks for that subject..?
    And if so then how much..?


  32. ASHISH December 23, 2016 at 4:06 am #

    Pls tell me marks required in theory to automatically clear the internal of Mumbai university


  33. Xyz December 20, 2016 at 6:27 pm #

    Are there step marks in bee,maths 1 and engineering mechanics


    • jojo22 January 5, 2017 at 4:14 am #

      only sub questioins if any


  34. taxa December 17, 2016 at 5:45 am #

    I heard that the limit of completing engineering in 8 years has been removed? Is that true ??


    • jojo22 January 5, 2017 at 4:15 am #

      it was never there


  35. Lenscope December 15, 2016 at 9:50 am #

    i have just appeared for my EM paper, i’m sure to get 32-35 marks out of 80 , but still if i get below 32 can i get grace marks .i have cleared the internal exams, vivas and Term work…am i eligible for some grace marks if i fail ?


  36. priya December 15, 2016 at 5:33 am #

    Hey ..I am a student of FE frm Mumbai uni…N i had my EM exam sterday…in whch i messed up perfectly. …Rest all i did well n m sure i will clear all oder than EM …is der any possiblity tht i will pass in mech…N if not will my education loan not get sanctioned because of one KT..?


    • jojo22 January 5, 2017 at 4:17 am #

      too early to think of loans,,but youll get it, and who knows u might get grace and pass in em also


  37. Kou Mabuchi December 14, 2016 at 10:26 am #

    Will i be able to change my branch in the 2nd year even if i get a kt in 1 subject in the 1st sem ?


    • jojo22 December 14, 2016 at 6:33 pm #

      u can take readmission into fe


  38. Anonymous December 14, 2016 at 1:39 am #

    If I have 3 backlogs then does it mean I have to repeat the whole year again?


  39. amol s. c December 13, 2016 at 9:04 am #

    sir, it takes 3 years to complete my 1st year… i mean i have 3 backlogs from 1st year.. then i appeared in 2nd year but still i was not able to complete my 1st year backlogs… now i got drop in second year also and still giving 1st year subjects so my question is that what if i fail in next sem for attempting 1st year backlog then should i got NFT for my engineering course..?


    • jojo22 January 5, 2017 at 4:19 am #

      forget about nft,,but think about how long u want to pursue this,,and its evident that u are not studyig right,,and NOT ENOUGH, take classes if u havent,,it helps..and attempt 80-85% of the question paper,and dont attemt more than 5 papers at one go


  40. Karan Bhosale December 3, 2016 at 5:21 pm #

    I am now in F.e. sem 1 is going to start in 4 days and I have failed in all internal subject except evs I have many doubts in em and maths is there any site or something which can help me to pass this sem 1 ?? I am really scared off and I don’t want a drop


    • jojo22 December 5, 2016 at 4:47 am #

      em and maths are the most difficult subjects,,i don think there is any site to help u, but i can tell u that if u study 75% of the portion in maths well u can clear, and em, attempt only theory


  41. Sujit December 3, 2016 at 5:34 am #

    Sir if i got (Not eligible for technical education rule)
    Then what should i do
    Can i fo engineering again after 12th
    Im doing diploma in computer engineering but failed 2 times
    So can i continue or leave it
    Plz help me sir
    Im in stress now
    Plz help me sir
    Can u give me ur no plz sir i want to talk with u
    Help me plz


    • jojo22 December 5, 2016 at 4:50 am #

      my advice to everyone,,is continue ,try never giving up because that spoils your conidence in future. now third time try studying differently, becuase what u have been doing is not working, change your strategy and clear it


  42. Annonymous November 29, 2016 at 9:04 pm #

    I completely disagree with what u hav to say about joining classes to pass….common guys…u r into your undergrad collg and u r dependent on others to give you knowledge….apna naseeb samjho ki idhar india me ye sab chalta he…u need to do things by yourself…get books from the library read them thoroughly…its the best way to understand the concepts and ace the exams both….and honestly this reflects in your interview when u sit for placements…i know the teachers are absolutely wortgless….but you r not…have confidence in yourself and try and work hard….and if u dont want to…dont feel bad but you r not ment to be an engineer….there is a reason that india produces 80k engineers every year but almost 90 pct of them r unemployable….kharab lage to lage but aagar me hota na placement panel me to ye classes walo ko apne company me peon ki bhi job na deta….and yes te question of technical and techmax….they r shit books not worth even a single read…..english to kharab he hi authir ki but it is evident that he is not at all a person of good understanding….engineering uske liye sirf ek 4 saal ka period he jo padh ke nikal loge….dosent make sense….our courses r really welll designed and if we read the books prescribed it will benefit us….aise hi nai bol raha hu….m one of you….did engineering from seemingly one of the best colleges in mumbai…and got placed in a dream company in the first week of the fibal year…samjho baat ko…and thise who think what i have written is wrong or not correct…sochte raho…i dont give a f***…life tumhari rules tumhare….as its said…tumhi mahan…amhi lahan…tumhi gadhav…amhi manav


  43. Huzefa November 28, 2016 at 8:05 pm #

    So i messed up in today’s microprocessor’s sem 5 paper real bad and I will be getting most probably 27-28 marks out of 80.So is there a possibility that they provide me extra 4 marks?


    • jojo22 December 5, 2016 at 4:51 am #

      if there was alot of theory and u attempted it all,,then maybe


  44. Parth Bhomkar November 27, 2016 at 9:52 pm #

    What happens if passing is 40 and i got less than that? Will i be failed?


    • jojo22 December 5, 2016 at 4:52 am #

      sometimes they pass u on 38


  45. bunty November 24, 2016 at 5:18 pm #

    Sir please tell me if professors fail students in third year for not submitting files and if they do will I get a drop?


    • jojo22 December 5, 2016 at 4:52 am #

      ive seen it happen in first year,,then im sure it can happpen in TE also


  46. kaustup November 24, 2016 at 4:03 pm #

    Sir I have a doubt.do professor fails the student if he hasnt done one of his submission in 5th sem ?and if they fail will the student get a drop or kt in that particular subject.I have just one file left to submit .


    • jojo22 December 5, 2016 at 4:54 am #

      ucan get a drop if file isnt submitted,,be careful


  47. Mohammad Faiz November 20, 2016 at 3:24 pm #

    I am in first year in diploma I have not open the book of physics and chemistry so it will clear ??


    • jojo22 December 5, 2016 at 4:56 am #

      r u joking,,can u succeed at anything without working hard on it?


  48. Abby November 10, 2016 at 4:51 pm #

    Can i get year drop due to internal atkt in 7th sem engineering in mumbai university?


    • jojo22 November 14, 2016 at 7:51 am #

      interna kt is as strong as theory kt,,u can


  49. Akshay upasani November 6, 2016 at 8:03 pm #

    I have lost my 2nd year’s 1st semester markshit,so can I get admission in engineering?
    Is only final year’s marksheet is required for admission process?


  50. Faizan November 6, 2016 at 2:12 pm #

    I have failed in 3 subjects in first year engineering in first semester as i have got less than 20 marks in online exam so is possible to score in theory exam of sem1 above 20


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